Will Updating My Bios Solve The Problem With Windows 10 1903

mcapehart · Oct 7, 2021 9 0 10 0

My system uses the ASUS Prime number Z390-A Motherboard, Intel Core i7-9700, HyperX HX436C17PB3K2/32 RAM, Samsung (MZ-V7S1T0B/AM) 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB and a ASUS GeForce GTX 950 2GB video card (used from previous configuration); this configuration has been running the latest version of Windows ten since I set the system in January. I did not make whatsoever changes to the default BIOS settings - the BIOS was version 1602. On Monday I ran the PC Heath Cheque App - everything passed except the app could not notice TMP 2.0 back up. I went to ASUS and found that BIOS Version 1903 supports TPM 2.0. I flashed the firmware and the reboot resulted in the bluish screen of death with the recommendation to perform Windows Repair. I contacted ASUS and tier one support said the system should have booted upward normally. They asked several questions and escalated me to advanced support. Someone from advanced support is supposed to contact me within the next 24 hours. I support several systems, with ASUS motherboards, that tin update to Windows 11 if I update the BIOS. I can also add TPM 2.0 Modules since they have the headers on the motherboard. Either way, am I going to run into this same problem with every ane of these systems or was I but unlucky with my system? My plan is to use spare hard drives to practise a clean install of Windows 10, update to Windows eleven and confirm activation - then do a clean install of Windows xi and ostend activation. Then I can reconnect the existing boot drive and look until I am ready or need to update these systems with a clean install of Windows xi. If enabling TPM makes it incommunicable to boot the existing drive I would have make this change before the costless update expires. This procedure worked well with the move to Windows 10 and I didn't update our systems until several months subsequently the free update expired.

Koekieezz

it'southward considering the windows ten is on legacy, where equally the latest bios that enabled w11 as default disable any csm selection. try to enable Launch CSM and boot to windows.

Koekieezz · Apr 30, 2020 3,009 430 6,690 621

it's because the windows 10 is on legacy, where as the latest bios that enabled w11 as default disable any csm selection. try to enable Launch CSM and kick to windows.

Colif · Jun 12, 2015 53,168 iv,011 151,590 9,732

BSOD isn't normal reaction you would get if the problem was the disk format, yous wouldn't get windows at all if it was the disk format

Its probably more than likely that fast startup messed up. Considering win x by default isn't off when you shut it down, it is probable flashing bios while it was on certain messed with it. I can't say I seen it before but in that location is always a offset.

If you were on win 10 before, you probably need to install ten on them and activate it and and then upgrade them to win 11 to get a win eleven activation. I don't know if you tin clean install 11 using a x cardinal, probably can just if fundamental been used to activate 10 you may need to go the upgrade route.

enabling TPM doesn't cease boot, its usually more secure kicking that is cause there

SkyNetRising · Jan 4, 2016 23,683 2,193 87,190 iii,854

I flashed the firmware and the reboot resulted in the bluish screen of death with the recommendation to perform Windows Repair. I contacted ASUS and tier ane support

What BSOD? Show a photograph.
BSOD is not merely to badger yous. It likewise has information on it, to place the problem.

When yous update BIOS, all BIOS settings get reset to defaults. This is normal and expected.
If you had whatsoever custom boot related settings (different from defaults), then those settings have to be reverted to original values.
Like - sata controller manner, kick mode, secure kicking e.t.c.
This is not ASUS issue. There was no indicate in contacting ASUS back up for this.

mcapehart · October 7, 2021 ix 0 ten 0

information technology's considering the windows 10 is on legacy, where as the latest bios that enabled w11 as default disable any csm option. effort to enable Launch CSM and boot to windows.

That makes sense. Thx!

mcapehart · Oct 7, 2021 9 0 ten 0

What BSOD? Show a photo.
BSOD is not just to annoy you. Information technology also has information on it, to identify the problem.
When you update BIOS, all BIOS settings get reset to defaults. This is normal and expected.
If y'all had whatsoever custom boot related settings (dissimilar from defaults), and then those settings have to exist reverted to original values.
Like - sata controller mode, boot mode, secure kick e.t.c.
This is not ASUS event. There was no bespeak in contacting ASUS back up for this.

After posting this question I continued to try other things. I think the main problem with the ASUS BIOS update was a problem with retentivity slot management. The arrangement will not post with RAM in any slot just B2. If I plow off OKMem I tin mail with RAM in A2 and B2. Both RAM sticks allow post in slot B2. Trying to employ slots A1 and B2, separately or together doesn't work either. Once I figured out the trouble was a RAM problem I was able to reinstall the video card and used a spare have drive to do a clean install of Windows x Pro 64-flake, update to Windows 11 Pro 64-bit and activate. So I successfully did a clean install of Windows 10 and it activated. I suspect turning on CMS would allow me to boot from my previous Windows 10 boot drive but I probably corrupted the MBR with my repeated attempts to boot information technology upwardly after the BIOS update. I will error on the side of caution and reload the system in one case I effigy out the RAM slot issue. I have an agile back up ticket with ASUS. I suspect the problem is a memory management bug in the new BIOS and that BIOS update volition be coming out shortly.

mcapehart

BSOD isn't normal reaction you would get if the trouble was the disk format, you wouldn't become windows at all if it was the disk format
Its probably more probable that fast startup messed up. Considering win 10 past default isn't off when you shut it down, it is likely flashing bios while it was on certain messed with it. I tin't say I seen information technology before only at that place is e'er a first.

If you were on win 10 before, yous probably need to install 10 on them and actuate it and and so upgrade them to win xi to get a win 11 activation. I don't know if you tin can clean install 11 using a x key, probably can simply if cardinal been used to activate 10 yous may need to go the upgrade route.

enabling TPM doesn't terminate kicking, its unremarkably more than secure kick that is cause there

I discovered one problem and recollect [B]Koekieezz[/B] correctly pointed out that CMS must exist enable to boot from a legacy Windows x boot device after enabling TPM 2.0. The get-go trouble was related to RAM. With BIOS 1602 the RAM slots worked fine, afterward updating to BIOS 1903 the system will only mail service with RAM in slot B2 - both RAM sticks will post in this slot. I accept a support ticket with ASUS. I suspect 1903 has a RAM management bug and will be updated.

SkyNetRising

I doubtable the problem is a memory direction issues in the new BIOS and that BIOS update volition be coming out presently.

More probable - there'due south an upshot with bent/broken pins in CPU socket.

mcapehart · Oct 7, 2021 9 0 10 0

If this is true how did the system work flawlessly, for 10 months, with BIOS 1602? When I took the motherboard out of the antistatic purse, the first affair I did was unlock the socket, remove the black plastic cover, sit the processor in place and lock the socket. Then I installed the base for the estrus sink/fan/heatpipe and secured information technology. So I installed the RAM and installed the motherboard in the case. I never had a reason to touch the processor once again, before making sure was clean, applying the thermal paste and securing the estrus sink/fan/heatpipe. I will pull the estrus sink/fan/estrus pipe as a last resort since I don't similar to touch the processor once it has been installed - information technology is as well easy to get peel oils and other droppings on the processor contacts and those tin be hard to fully remove.

SkyNetRising · Jan 4, 2016 23,683 2,193 87,190 3,854

I never had a reason to bear upon the processor over again, before making certain was make clean, applying the thermal paste and securing the oestrus sink/fan/heatpipe.

Uneven/excessive mounting pressure level from cpu cooler can too lead to bad contact between cpu socket pins and cpu.
If organization was transported without removing cpu cooler, this as well ca be cause for similar symptoms.

mcapehart · Oct 7, 2021 9 0 10 0

The problem started later on updating the BIOS - before I moved the case from where it normally sits. I did move the example from the floor, nether my L shaped desk, to the work bench (virtually two feet) before removing the covers. I am an It Admin; my office has a 72"x72" L shaped desk-bound, a 72" estimator table that I utilise as a work demote and a shelving unit. Betwixt the left render (of my desk-bound) and the computer table I tin can piece of work on 4 desktops and several laptops at the same time. Once ASUS responds, I may accept to remove the processor equally function of their troubleshooting procedure. I would love for this to exist something as simple as reseating the processor but that is a lot of work, with the risk of damaging the pins as you previously mentioned. I do appreciate y'all taking the fourth dimension to rely - more than in one case. I have observed problems, like yous depict, before. I am the only person in my office, I have not allowed anyone else to enter my office since March 19, 2020 - I upgraded the organization in January, 2021 and take never had a problem with information technology.

mcapehart

I wanted to follow upwardly. After finally taking the time to remove the heat sink/fan/rut piping, removing the processor, confirming the pins were ok, thoroughly cleaning the processor & heat sink/fan/rut pipage, reinstalling the processor, applying new thermal grease and installing the heat sink/fan/heat pipage - the arrangement had the same problem, with the A2 RAM slot, every bit it has since I updated the BIOS. Once I knew bent pins or poor contact weren't the trouble I removed the RAM from slot A2 and reconnected the NVMe Kicking drive. I enabled CSM and the system booted upwards without whatever trouble. Now I waiting for ASUS Tier 2 back up to get dorsum with me near the problem with RAM slot A2. I wanted to allow you know that I confirmed you solution to the problem I reported before I realized I also had a problem with the RAM Slot. Thanks for your quick response!

mcapehart

The trouble started after updating the BIOS - before I moved the instance from where it unremarkably sits. I did movement the example from the floor, under my Fifty shaped desk, to the work demote (most two anxiety) before removing the covers. I am an IT Admin; my part has a 72"x72" L shaped desk, a 72" computer table that I utilise as a work bench and a shelving unit of measurement. Between the left return (of my desk) and the calculator table I tin can piece of work on 4 desktops and several laptops at the same time. Once ASUS responds, I may accept to remove the processor equally function of their troubleshooting procedure. I would love for this to exist something as simple as reseating the processor but that is a lot of work, with the chance of damaging the pins as yous previously mentioned. I practice appreciate yous taking the fourth dimension to rely - more than than once. I have observed problems, like you lot describe, before. I am the simply person in my office, I have not allowed anyone else to enter my office since March xix, 2020 - I upgraded the organisation in January, 2021 and have never had a trouble with it.

I wanted to follow upwards. Realizing removing the processor, confirming the pins weren't aptitude or cleaved and putting information technology back together without overtightening the anchor bolts, would most probable exist part of the trouble shooting procedure ASUS would take me try when they telephone call - I went ahead and did that today. I removed the heat sink/fan/rut pipe, removed the processor, confirmed the pins were ok, thoroughly cleaned the processor & estrus sink/fan/heat piping, reinstalled the processor, applied new thermal grease and installed the heat sink/fan/heat pipage. The kickoff boot attempt required me to go into the BIOS to change a setting. When I did I went ahead and enable CMS based on a previous suggestion. The system had the same problem, with the A2 RAM slot, as it has since I updated the BIOS. Once I knew bent pins or poor contact weren't the trouble I removed the RAM from slot A2 and reconnected the NVMe Kicking drive. The organisation booted up without any problem. Now I waiting for ASUS Tier ii support to become dorsum with me nearly the problem with RAM slot A2. I am surprised the organization boots up with RAM simply in slot B2 and won't boot up with RAM in slot A2 or both A2 and B2. I would welcome any ideas y'all might have.

mcapehart

I discovered i trouble and think [B]Koekieezz[/B] correctly pointed out that CMS must be enable to boot from a legacy Windows 10 kicking device after enabling TPM 2.0. The start trouble was related to RAM. With BIOS 1602 the RAM slots worked fine, afterwards updating to BIOS 1903 the organization will only post with RAM in slot B2 - both RAM sticks will post in this slot. I have a support ticket with ASUS. I suspect 1903 has a RAM direction bug and will be updated.

I wanted to follow up. The solution I mentioned a few days ago was what was required. Once I enabled CMS, in the BIOS, the system booted the old NMVe Windows ten load without whatever trouble. I still have the RAM problem simply and am waiting on ASUS Tier two back up to reply.

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